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RE: More Transparency - Mors - 08-04-2019
we cant bring back everything mfgg used to have in the past lol
RE: More Transparency - GeneralGuy - 08-04-2019
(08-04-2019, 06:40 PM)Mors Wrote: we cant bring back everything mfgg used to have in the past lol
Not with that attitude.
Yes we can
RE: More Transparency - Mors - 08-04-2019
(08-04-2019, 06:43 PM)GeneralGuy Wrote:(08-04-2019, 06:40 PM)Mors Wrote: we cant bring back everything mfgg used to have in the past lol
Not with that attitude.
Yes we can
Okay we can, but should we?
I mean that sprite doesn't really fit in with the current aesthetic of the forums, and there isn't really much of a reason to have them now besides "MFGG used to have them". It's unnecessary clutter too imo.
RE: More Transparency - GeneralGuy - 08-04-2019
(08-04-2019, 07:27 PM)Mors Wrote:Can we have those sprites on the MFGG Classic (2003-2008) skin? You can use whatever images you want for the other skins, or none at all.(08-04-2019, 06:43 PM)GeneralGuy Wrote:(08-04-2019, 06:40 PM)Mors Wrote: we cant bring back everything mfgg used to have in the past lol
Not with that attitude.
Yes we can
Okay we can, but should we?
I mean that sprite doesn't really fit in with the current aesthetic of the forums, and there isn't really much of a reason to have them now besides "MFGG used to have them". It's unnecessary clutter too imo.
RE: More Transparency - SonicKade2048 - 08-04-2019
to be frank with you GeneralGuy, the Superstar Saga sprites are quite possibly some of the most-used Mario sprites in existence, and their style alone isn't really something that can fit right in to, say, a forum skin for example.
I don't really care either way for the idea of having other custom images for such, but maybe it's time we move on from some parts of the past that can't be replicated. In other terms, we don't really need it, it's just something folks like you want.
RE: More Transparency - Pedigree - 08-04-2019
Even if all we can agree on is putting the ban reason on a forum profile, that's good enough for me tbh.
Make your own threads for emoji requests lmao.
RE: More Transparency - OssieTheOstrich - 08-05-2019
I remember when I suggested this and it got shot down, as it could've led to more drama.
So, I don't think it'll happen.
RE: More Transparency - Pedigree - 08-05-2019
Because your reasoning and the way you presented it were probably what led to that decision, if I had to guess.
RE: More Transparency - Daisy - 08-10-2019
To be honest, I'm on the fence for this one. On one hand, it can show greater transparency and give context into why someone was banned to avoid the risks of arguments when someone asks "why was [user] banned". On the other, it could also increase the risks of arguments as some people just never let things go no matter how much someone may redeem themselves and old, outdated drama could be unfairly brought back as a result of the ban. I'm not gonna give any names but I do know some users may continually haunt formerly banned users even if they have changed their ways if the ban reason is revealed.
RE: More Transparency - GeneralGuy - 08-10-2019
(08-10-2019, 09:40 PM)Lisa Wrote: To be honest, I'm on the fence for this one. On one hand, it can show greater transparency and give context into why someone was banned to avoid the risks of arguments when someone asks "why was [user] banned". On the other, it could also increase the risks of arguments as some people just never let things go no matter how much someone may redeem themselves and old, outdated drama could be unfairly brought back as a result of the ban. I'm not gonna give any names but I do know some users may continually haunt formerly banned users even if they have changed their ways if the ban reason is revealed.This is the fundamental issue at hand. It's a matter of complete transparency, curbing the creation of ban threads and public deterrence from committing offenses versus preventing old forum drama from resurfacing, bulling, ad hominem and ensuring the privacy of all members. It's a tough decision to make. Each direction has their pros and cons. Perhaps a hybrid system that uses attributes of both sides should be considered?
RE: More Transparency - Daisy - 08-10-2019
(08-10-2019, 09:48 PM)GeneralGuy Wrote:(08-10-2019, 09:40 PM)Lisa Wrote: To be honest, I'm on the fence for this one. On one hand, it can show greater transparency and give context into why someone was banned to avoid the risks of arguments when someone asks "why was [user] banned". On the other, it could also increase the risks of arguments as some people just never let things go no matter how much someone may redeem themselves and old, outdated drama could be unfairly brought back as a result of the ban. I'm not gonna give any names but I do know some users may continually haunt formerly banned users even if they have changed their ways if the ban reason is revealed.This is the fundamental issue at hand. It's a matter of complete transparency, curbing the creation of ban threads and public deterrence from committing offenses versus preventing old forum drama from resurfacing, bulling, ad hominem and ensuring the privacy of all members. It's a tough decision to make. Each direction has their pros and cons. Perhaps a hybrid system that uses attributes of both sides should be considered?
I would be for a hybrid system using the attributes of both sides but the question is how would that be implemented?
RE: More Transparency - GeneralGuy - 08-10-2019
(08-10-2019, 09:50 PM)Lisa Wrote:The way it would be implemented would be issuing a temporary description that shows up inside a member's profile clarifying in detail why they were banned/suspended, which immediately disappears once their suspension is over. Additionally, the ban usergroup would either be removed to completely remove the unwanted attention, or at least toned down to be less of a spectacle. This ensures complete forum transparency, helps curb the creation of threads asking why someone was banned, dissuades others from breaking the rules, along with preventing old drama from resurfacing because there isn't any ban log to reference, and somewhat gives members privacy due to the subtle and provisional nature of the new warn system.(08-10-2019, 09:48 PM)GeneralGuy Wrote:(08-10-2019, 09:40 PM)Lisa Wrote: To be honest, I'm on the fence for this one. On one hand, it can show greater transparency and give context into why someone was banned to avoid the risks of arguments when someone asks "why was [user] banned". On the other, it could also increase the risks of arguments as some people just never let things go no matter how much someone may redeem themselves and old, outdated drama could be unfairly brought back as a result of the ban. I'm not gonna give any names but I do know some users may continually haunt formerly banned users even if they have changed their ways if the ban reason is revealed.This is the fundamental issue at hand. It's a matter of complete transparency, curbing the creation of ban threads and public deterrence from committing offenses versus preventing old forum drama from resurfacing, bulling, ad hominem and ensuring the privacy of all members. It's a tough decision to make. Each direction has their pros and cons. Perhaps a hybrid system that uses attributes of both sides should be considered?
I would be for a hybrid system using the attributes of both sides but the question is how would that be implemented?
RE: More Transparency - Pedigree - 08-11-2019
I retract my opinion. Please lock. Thank you.
RE: More Transparency [Lock Requested] - Mors - 08-12-2019
I'd normally keep this unlocked but I guess if someone wants to add something I guess you can make a new thread.
For the record we are probably still going to add this regardless.
But yeah, locked.