(07-13-2020, 07:07 PM)VinnyVideo Wrote: Ped, I think you mean well, but you're taking things a liiiiiiiiiiiittle too seriously. It's a tiny little nonprofit community where a significant percentage of our users (including, once upon a time, our very own founder!) are younger than 13.

While MFGG isn't technically registered as a nonprofit organization, it isn't a business either. We don't engage in any commercial activity or monetize user data.

(07-13-2020, 07:07 PM)VinnyVideo Wrote: Ped, I think you mean well, but you're taking things a liiiiiiiiiiiittle too seriously. It's a tiny little nonprofit community where a significant percentage of our users (including, once upon a time, our very own founder!) are younger than 13.

While MFGG isn't technically registered as a nonprofit organization, it isn't a business either. We don't engage in any commercial activity or monetize user data.

(Also, just to make sure you understand, MyBB is a piece of open-source software - the creators and contributors have no control over what people do with it - and it doesn't even include a COPPA compliance feature. Also, we don't ask for your age when you register a new account.)

But agree to disagree.

(07-15-2020, 10:27 PM)VinnyVideo Wrote: It's been three years since I first set up MyBB, and upon further review, there is a COPPA setting buried near the bottom of the configuration settings in the Admin Control Panel. I don't know how it works, though, since no one ever tried to test it. I think it was disabled by default, but I don't remember with certainty. I also see an optional forum mailing address and fax number (yes, I'm serious - that's how long ago COPPA was written) if you want to enable this setting. The description for this setting includes a link to an external Web site about COPPA... and it's a 404 error.

phpBB had a lot more COPPA compliance features built into the software, like a COPPA pending group that was included by default. (JaxBoards, another forum system I use, doesn't have any COPPA features at all.)

I'm not an expert in this matter (I don't think anyone here is), but I don't think MFGG is doing anything wrong or illegal here. Even if we're technically not complying with the letter of the law, I think the risk of MFGG getting in trouble is microscopic.

If you really want to start throwing the book at MFGG - and thousands of other nonprofit forums and blogs - I'm sure we're not fully compliant with the Americans with Disabilities Act. Similarly, while I wrote a really rudimentary privacy policy a couple of years ago, it was never intended to be a bulletproof defense against the GDPR (and similar privacy legislation that other states and countries are working on).

That's all I'm going to say - I'm much older than 13 now and no longer have time to argue about stuff on the Internet!

(07-15-2020, 10:27 PM)VinnyVideo Wrote: It's been three years since I first set up MyBB, and upon further review, there is a COPPA setting buried near the bottom of the configuration settings in the Admin Control Panel. I don't know how it works, though, since no one ever tried to test it. I think it was disabled by default, but I don't remember with certainty. I also see an optional forum mailing address and fax number (yes, I'm serious - that's how long ago COPPA was written) if you want to enable this setting. The description for this setting includes a link to an external Web site about COPPA... and it's a 404 error.

phpBB had a lot more COPPA compliance features built into the software, like a COPPA pending group that was included by default. (JaxBoards, another forum system I use, doesn't have any COPPA features at all.)

I'm not an expert in this matter (I don't think anyone here is), but I don't think MFGG is doing anything wrong or illegal here. Even if we're technically not complying with the letter of the law, I think the risk of MFGG getting in trouble is microscopic.

If you really want to start throwing the book at MFGG - and thousands of other nonprofit forums and blogs - I'm sure we're not fully compliant with the Americans with Disabilities Act. Similarly, while I wrote a really rudimentary privacy policy a couple of years ago, it was never intended to be a bulletproof defense against the GDPR (and similar privacy legislation that other states and countries are working on).

That's all I'm going to say - I'm much older than 13 now and no longer have time to argue about stuff on the Internet!

(07-15-2020, 10:59 PM)Hypernova Wrote: Initially I am neutral on this matter but with developing information I am receiving, I think handling DMCA dispute would be easier to be dealt with compared to something like COPPA. I don't have much understandings when it comes to laws in a detailed manner but matters like this need to be taken very seriously even by the slightest chance.

Although I said I don't have much understandings with laws, the DMCA part is what I can understand a bit more.

On a side note, since this discussion has swayed off from the original topic. Shall we split the topic?

Quote:The Act and the Rule expressly state that they apply to commercial websites and not to nonprofits that would otherwise be exempt from coverage under Section 5 of the FTC Act. Thus, in general, most nonprofits are not subject to the Rule. However, nonprofits that operate for the benefit of their for-profit members may be subject to the Rule. See FTC v. California Dental Association 526 U.S. 756 (1999), for additional guidance on when nonprofits are subject to FTC jurisdiction. Although public-benefit nonprofits are not subject to COPPA, it would be good for them to set an example by posting privacy policies and providing the protections set forth in COPPA to children providing personal information at their sites.

(07-15-2020, 10:32 PM)Shadow Administrator Drei Wrote:

(07-15-2020, 10:27 PM)VinnyVideo Wrote: It's been three years since I first set up MyBB, and upon further review, there is a COPPA setting buried near the bottom of the configuration settings in the Admin Control Panel. I don't know how it works, though, since no one ever tried to test it. I think it was disabled by default, but I don't remember with certainty. I also see an optional forum mailing address and fax number (yes, I'm serious - that's how long ago COPPA was written) if you want to enable this setting. The description for this setting includes a link to an external Web site about COPPA... and it's a 404 error.

phpBB had a lot more COPPA compliance features built into the software, like a COPPA pending group that was included by default. (JaxBoards, another forum system I use, doesn't have any COPPA features at all.)

I'm not an expert in this matter (I don't think anyone here is), but I don't think MFGG is doing anything wrong or illegal here. Even if we're technically not complying with the letter of the law, I think the risk of MFGG getting in trouble is microscopic.

If you really want to start throwing the book at MFGG - and thousands of other nonprofit forums and blogs - I'm sure we're not fully compliant with the Americans with Disabilities Act. Similarly, while I wrote a really rudimentary privacy policy a couple of years ago, it was never intended to be a bulletproof defense against the GDPR (and similar privacy legislation that other states and countries are working on).

That's all I'm going to say - I'm much older than 13 now and no longer have time to argue about stuff on the Internet!

You reallocate any points into romance when you hit that mental development completion achievement?