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Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Evil Yoshi Toes - 01-25-2018
This is a continuation of a discussion on another thread that has come up numerous times in that thread. I'm creating this new topic in order to keep that user's topic from flooding with comments that don't necessarily help with the game's development. Let it be known that this isn't a place to bash that user or her game, this is just a discussion as to what is or is not allowed on MFGG and where the line is drawn regarding sexual content in games. If you have a problem with that game's content, it'd be better to discuss it here.
In case you don't know, there is a fan game being developed and showcased here on the forums that is centered around a sexual fetish. Just about every time the user makes a new post regarding her game, there is some sort of disagreement as to whether or not the game is appropriate for this site. Here is what the rules say on the matter:
Quote: No NSFW MaterialThe rules state that no content not safe for work is allowed. This is not a very hard line, as you could argue that since there is no nudity in the game it would be safe for work; However, the rules also state that the website is meant to be family friendly. If that is the case, why is a game made explicitly for sexual arousal allowed? Is that not content that is best kept away from children?
Do not post text, images, or media of a pornographic or sexually explicit nature. Don't post content depicting extreme violence, or anything else that would be unsafe for work.
- If you must, please put it in a spoiler tag and give a clear warning, but keep its contents reasonable. This is supposed to be a family-friendly website.
- To clarify further and to define "reasonable": we will not allow anything that has intent to look suggestive or worse. Any media that features whether explicitly or outlined (showing through clothes) any form of "private areas" will not be permitted. Exceptions are granted to official game renders that cannot be reasonably argued to have non-family-friendly intentions.
I believe that the staff has been lenient on this project because it is not a common thing to be aroused by. In that topic I brought up that if I were to make a game featuring Princess Peach in skimpy clothing sucking on bananas it would certainly be shut down as a violation of the NSFW rule, specifically this section:
Quote: we will not allow anything that has intent to look suggestive or worse. Any media that features whether explicitly or outlined (showing through clothes) any form of "private areas" will not be permitted
It has been made pretty clear by the creator of the game in question that it is a vorarephilia fetish game and that the game does intend to look suggestive, so it directly violates the rules even if less people are aroused by vore than they are by banana sucking.
I normally wouldn't make a topic like this, but the thought of children stumbling across a fetish game on a site that claims to be family friendly is disturbing. I found MFGG when I was 10 or 11, and I know others have found it at a younger age, and I don't think such material should be exposed to such young children.
Again, this isn't to bash the user or her game. If she wants to make it then of course she should be allowed to make it, but not on a site that welcomes children.
(I wasn't sure if this would qualify to go into the suggestions board, but if it does can it be moved?)
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Saltman - 01-25-2018
I didn't know she said that she wanted the game to be suggestive. If she did then yeah, we should talk about this here.
Still, I think this game's been allowed in this forum because people +13 can join it only, I think.
I do remember a few guys who joined at the age of 10 and 11 though (asdfghjk, Jaden1291, etc). But not many people do.
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Nutshell - 01-25-2018
Just use my old idea of the MFGG Game Rating System on the main site!!!
(01-25-2018, 01:59 PM)Saltman Wrote: I didn't know she said that she wanted the game to be suggestive. If she did then yeah, we should talk about this here.
Still, I think this game's been allowed in this forum because people +13 can join it only, I think.
I do remember a few guys who joined at the age of 10 and 11 though (asdfghjk, Jaden1291, etc). But not many people do.
I started visiting the site at the age of 8 and I thought that all the games made were "Nintendo official and licensed" games
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Saltman - 01-25-2018
(01-25-2018, 02:13 PM)No Name Wrote:Just use my old idea of the MFGG Game Rating System on the main site!!!
(01-25-2018, 01:59 PM)Saltman Wrote: I didn't know she said that she wanted the game to be suggestive. If she did then yeah, we should talk about this here.
Still, I think this game's been allowed in this forum because people +13 can join it only, I think.
I do remember a few guys who joined at the age of 10 and 11 though (asdfghjk, Jaden1291, etc). But not many people do.
I started visiting the site at the age of 8 and I thought that all the games made were "Nintendo official and licensed" games
I was talking about the Message Boards though, not the main site.
I think the main site has younger members. That would explain how some of it's comments can be... bad sometimes.
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Parakarry - 01-25-2018
It would have to be joking and implied, nothing actually shown.
Jokes are probably fair game, but not actual pornographic things.
Something like "Time to storm Peach's castle". (i didn't make that, i found it on a funny video once)
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Pedigree - 01-25-2018
Banning content on the basis that it "could be" someone's sexual fetish is a slippery slope and I disagree with any form of this.
However, threads containing disturbing content like grotesque stomach noises in Sloshy's game should be labeled with a warning that some may find it disturbing. In addition, a rating system where people state what the game contains would inform them if for some reason it ended up on the site.
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Mariotroid - 01-25-2018
I agree I don't think this game shouldn't appear on the main site or the forums. It's strange it's allowed on here and people are commenting like it's fine.
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Evil Yoshi Toes - 01-25-2018
(01-25-2018, 05:02 PM)Pedigree Wrote: Banning content on the basis that it "could be" someone's sexual fetish is a slippery slope and I disagree with any form of this.I think it is past the “could be” stage, though. Sloshy has stated before that it is a vore fetish game, and fetish games are meant to provide sexual pleasure.
However, threads containing disturbing content like grotesque stomach noises in Sloshy's game should be labeled with a warning that some may find it disturbing. In addition, a rating system where people state what the game contains would inform them if for some reason it ended up on the site.
I agree that she should include a warning, but my main concern is the game making it to the main site where kids can easily see it. Even if she includes a warning in her games description, I’m sure most kids download games before even reading any of that. If we branded MFGG as a site that caters to adults and not to children then this wouldn’t be such an issue, but everything about the site is welcoming to kids, even our rules, so I think having a game made specifically for sexual pleasure available on a site for kids is disturbing to me.
Im still not really on board with having this game on the forums, given the forum rules which it by my interpretation of them breaks, but the main site would be a bigger issue.
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Nessa - 01-25-2018
i didnt ever say fetish. i just said it has vore
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Evil Yoshi Toes - 01-25-2018
(01-25-2018, 07:09 PM)sl0shy Wrote: i didnt ever say fetish. i just said it has vore
Which is a fetish
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Nessa - 01-25-2018
not always. vore just means being eaten. some people fetishize it and fetish isnt always means sexaul
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Evil Yoshi Toes - 01-25-2018
(01-25-2018, 07:53 PM)sl0shy Wrote: not always. vore just means being eaten. some people fetishize it and fetish isnt always means sexaul
Vore is short for Vorarephilia, which means a desire to be consumed by someone/thing or to consume someone/thing for erotic pleasure. And a fetish is by definition sexual.
People have commented on your game being a fetish game and you've told them that if they don't like fetish games they should just ignore your game. You've never denied that it was a fetish game, but now suddenly it isn't? Your name was even SoftVore when you first showcased your game here, which is a direct reference to a vore fetish. A game full of voluptuous Mario characters swallowing things and having their bellies bulge and wiggle is quite clearly a fetish game, and I don't think anyone is missing that. And again, you referred to it as vore, which is a fetish.
I take no issue with you or your fetishes, nor do I take issue with your game being a fetish game; I take issue with your game being on this site. If you have a vore fetish and you want to make vore games then go ahead, but there are more appropriate places to showcase your work that are not open to children.
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Nessa - 01-25-2018
my game is about as 'sexual' as skullgirls with its titbounce animating. or is all stuff skullgirls related not allowed here
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - YoshisIsland3 - 01-25-2018
(01-25-2018, 07:53 PM)sl0shy Wrote: not always. vore just means being eaten. some people fetishize it and fetish isnt always means sexaul
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You could just try for a change to make your game a bit more friendly instead of being Yoshi the fanfiction ( no offense.) Maybe try changing the Piranha to a *actual* Piranha boss with hair and using it's vines as a weapon instead of a "whip".
You can also try changing the gulp sounds to make it less disturbing. The meter could just be hearts or a less disturbing stomach meter.
Like I said, try changing it to be more friendly.
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - VinnyVideo - 01-25-2018
Right now, the game is just a very short engine test, and it's hard to evaluate much about the gameplay. However, if the fetish element is prominent, we probably wouldn't accept it if it was submitted to the mainsite. I think a lot of people would find it less uncomfortable if you toned down the stomach noises and some of the skimpier outfits.
I can't say there are no official Nintendo games with "sexy" characters - Candy Kong in DK64 and several Fire Emblem characters, especially newer ones like Camilla, come to mind. Mario games are usually pretty clean-cut, though - Flurrie is about as sexy as it gets in Mario games. Also, official Nintendo games tend to stay far away from anything that might be considered a sexual fetish.
I'm probably not the best person to be discussing this topic - I wasn't aware of the existence of "vore" until about three years ago, and I have a hard time connecting eating things with sexual gratification. I guess some people do, though.
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Knuckles - 01-25-2018
(01-25-2018, 08:25 PM)sl0shy Wrote: my game is about as 'sexual' as skullgirls with its titbounce animating. or is all stuff skullgirls related not allowed here
Yes, Skullgirls is slightly sexual. Yes, your game is slightly sexual.
The difference between the two is that boobs are something that normal men and sometimes women are attracted to. Swelling stomachs are not. Skullgirls is modest with its fan service whereas this game seems to ooze with it. Personally I would have no problems with a scantily clad yoshi with boobs doing whateaver in the mushroom kingdom. It's just that your fetish is in the same league with fart porn and scat. You can enjoy what you like but not everyone has to accept it.
A fetish shouldn't be shared so openly like this.
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Friendly Dictator - 01-25-2018
i mean if extreme violence like the shroom project is allowed then non-explicit sexual stuff should be fine
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Dimentio - 01-25-2018
"Normal men and women aren't attracted to _______"
Never make a statement this rude again.
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Friendly Dictator - 01-25-2018
its really wild seeing a racist meme talking about "normal people"
RE: Sexual Content in MFGG Fangames - Vitiman - 01-25-2018
Really Knee-Slapping Original Meme Man Wrote:You can enjoy what you like but not everyone has to accept it.Actually yes they do. That's not even anyone's argument in this thread, it's whether or not sexualized stuff is appropriate on the main site which seems to mostly be younger people populating it.
A fetish shouldn't be shared so openly like this.
What FD said is the most spot-on thing: if overly gory, violent stuff is allowed on here, this should be too.