07-12-2024, 09:40 AM
Quote:Huh, really? Of all the TGF/CNC games, how-tos, and libs I have in my computer, I'm pretty sure about half of them were made with CNC. Then again, I just skimmed through the TGF/CNC section of Kliktopia (large website containing over 3,500 oldschool Klik games), and it seems like most of those are made with TGF, so I see your point. It would make sense anyway, since CNC had a much more limited means of distribution than TGF (the former could only be obtained through the Clickteam website, while the latter comes in discs that seem to be sold in retail stores, and this was long before online shopping became mainstream).
People definitely had CNC! But it was not in absolute circulation like TGF was. Since compatibility between the two was generally pretty good, I think most people didn't bother with upgrading to CNC for the time period. Now TGF to MMF1.5... that was more of a justified leap. At least, after a point. Because to your credit, MMF1.5 was also something people didn't bother upgrading to until about 2003-2004. A lot of people still used TGF going into the mid-2000s, if you'll believe it. There's certainly proof of it on MFGG!
Quote:Yeah, I just learned that MMF1.5 also used .cca files. However, another way to find proof of what Clickteam program the game was compiled with is to look at the file description of the .exe. For example, the file description for Super Mario Epic 2's .exe is "Multimedia Fusion Express Stand Alone Application". Though, I don't know if the file description can be manipulated, at least for the time period and tools available.
I have no doubt that SME2 started development possibly in CNC! That would explain the file description, as in Clickteam products this was always a default field that auto-populated based on where the file begun development in. Since Clickteam products are always backwards compatible with each other, I would not be surprised if Jeff begun in CNC and finished in MMF1.5 (it allegedly took him a solid year or two to make SME2, so this would track with the time period). Of course, Jeff could always say something that could contradict this, I don't know! It would be quite amusing if a game I always took as being made in the venerable Multimedia Fusion 1.5 was actually successfully hocked up in what was essentially The Games Factory 1.5, haha
As far as the Toad Strikes Back demos, you got me there. The v3 demo wasn't well-known until recently, and I think I might know who found out where to download that! So to your credit, some of your historical research actually was able to come back up in an interesting context! Yeah, TD definitely strikes me as one of the people on MFGG who probably hopped between all of the Clickteam products, most likely.
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