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Poll: What is your favorite iteration of Clickteam?
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Klik & Play
0%
0 0%
The Games Factory/Click & Create
25.00%
1 25.00%
Multimedia Fusion
50.00%
2 50.00%
The Games Factory 2/Multimedia Fusion 2
25.00%
1 25.00%
Clickteam Fusion 2.5
0%
0 0%
Total 4 vote(s) 100%
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Favorite iteration of Clickteam?
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07-20-2024, 10:56 AM (This post was last modified: 07-20-2024, 11:49 AM by Vitiman.)
Quote:So, the file description describes the program the game started with, even if it's exported by a different program? That's new to me. According to the MFGG Wiki article for Super Mario Epic 2 (largely written by Jeff Silvers himself), the game started in TGF and then moved over to Multimedia Fusion Express (CNC as you know). Maybe you misread that as MMF1.5?


So, if there's proof Jeff wrote that part of the article himself, then this is a closed case. You'd be correct, and I made an incorrect assumption, haha. Luckily, the good news about wiki articles is the nature of their back end means we actually have a pretty definitive way to figure out when and where that claim was originally made. Sure enough, on May 1, 2006, written by Jeff Silvers himself...

Quote:When file corruptions began to occur on a nearly weekly basis, Silvers switched production of the game over to Multimedia Fusion Express, a program that was essentially the same as The Games Factory but less prone to file corruption. The file corruption incidences became much rarer after the switch.


I suppose all my years of upholding Epic 2 as an early example of what you could do in MMF1.5 specifically were misguided. They led me to push myself with MMF1.5 because I was always like "well SME2 has this, so certainly I can do it too!" Achievements in ignorance is what I would say, if it were not for the fact that MMF1.5 is objectively a more capable program than its predecessors, so it's not like... being able to do something in MMF Express/CNC inherently meant you could not in 1.5, haha. Also, do not be alarmed, I did not misread Express as 1.5 and draw that conclusion from there, the truth is I didn't even make a point of seeing that part of the Wiki until now, and thought someone else must have added that erroneously to the article. My only contribution to the article was give it a screenshot in 2012! My belief that 1.5 was used for the game probably came from something someone said on the old forums years ago, or maybe it was just something I assumed based purely on the .CCA file. Either way, it was not a case of fleeting dyslexia! I'm sorry, maybe that joke is in poor taste...

Quote:Also, Click Extract's level viewer works fine with SME2. I tried using it with a MMF1.5 file, and it threw up a bunch of error messages before closing, so I don't think the program is compatible with MMF1.5 games (at least not for the level viewer).


This isn't the smoking gun you might think it is! While SME2 definitively has been catalogued as an MMF Express joint (mostly), there are even .TGF files that won't open in Click Extract properly. Sometimes the event/level data isn't always compatible, and it doesn't fully have to do with what program it was made in. I will say that 1.5 files are far more likely to not work with it, but that doesn't mean none will. I think it depends on what kind of events or extensions a person used? But honestly, I have no idea. I'm so glad a tool like that exists, to preserve the inner-workings of really old fan games. I was able to decompile a few of the Mario's Mansion games to use their assets/try finishing one of them forever ago. Actually, I was recently going out of my way to finally finish my Mario's Mansion 3 continuation! But I stopped a few months back because of other commitments in my life (work mostly, but other hobbies and IRL things like playing live music have also took up a lot of my productivity-based free time). I would really like to finally release it, it's over 10 years in the making alone, and then you add the 10 from before I started my continuation and it's over 20 years in the oven. The world finally needs to see Mario's Mansion 3!

Sorry, that was quite a tangent to go on lol
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Favorite iteration of Clickteam? - by Q-Nova - 07-08-2024, 04:01 AM
RE: Favorite iteration of Clickteam? - by Vitiman - 07-11-2024, 09:37 AM
RE: Favorite iteration of Clickteam? - by Q-Nova - 07-11-2024, 11:54 PM
RE: Favorite iteration of Clickteam? - by Vitiman - 07-12-2024, 01:54 AM
RE: Favorite iteration of Clickteam? - by Q-Nova - 07-12-2024, 03:12 AM
RE: Favorite iteration of Clickteam? - by Vitiman - 07-12-2024, 09:40 AM
RE: Favorite iteration of Clickteam? - by Q-Nova - 07-19-2024, 01:03 PM
RE: Favorite iteration of Clickteam? - by Vitiman - 07-20-2024, 10:56 AM
RE: Favorite iteration of Clickteam? - by Q-Nova - 07-23-2024, 05:16 AM

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