12-25-2018, 01:41 PM
(12-25-2018, 01:35 PM)Mors Wrote:(12-25-2018, 01:16 PM)Mario Wrote: ok whoevers saying "deleting discord wont solve mfgg's problems"
WE KNOW!!!!
WE ALL KNOW!!!
YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT ANYONE'S SAYING TOO!!!
Stop trying to derail the convo with some nonsense that makes U seem so smart. It's easy to derail any convo about making mfgg better and you don't need to prove it here.
Discord is _A_ problem. We should discuss it here. MFGG's seemingly endless(?) other issues can be dealt with on their own.
We *need* to take a look at Discord. I'm not even in it and unlike Vinny I can say without a "maybe" that there's a serious problems with it, from it's superhero origin story to it's every day "antics" which are just... so, so sad to hear about as someone who wants the best for MFGG. I tried to be a part of it and be laid back and enjoy the show but its not even an entertaining show. It's. Just. Sad.
As Pedigree says, the problem is that the staff as a whole aren't invested in it. They want to sit back and not worry about it while writing all the policies for it and be a part of judging anything that goes on there. That's not how you run a community!
If you're not interested in being part of the community. that's totally understandable. Be mature and honest and step down from staff! The community has no reason to respect staff that don't respect them and that shouldn't be a surprise!
Give discord the respect it deserves, ADMIT it's not working (no "maybes" even tho its obvious!), shut it down and let's work TOGETHER this time at making something better.
And no secret staff feedback submissions again. We had two in a rwo. They don't work. Collaboration works. Secret independent bits of feedback have done 0 for the community so far!
It's not derailing, it's just that the other problems of MFGG are what's causing Discord to be like this. You just mentioned the staff's secrecy, do you think that this is something exclusive to the Discord? No, it isn't, it's been a problem ever since I became a part of the community in 2012 and it's been brought up several times even before when Discord was a thing. How would deleting the server solve that? All that needs to be done for that is changing the staff's approach to moderation and making decisions and you can do it without deleting the entire server.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. I DIDN'T SAY DELETING THE SERVER SOLVES STAFF SECRECY!!!!!!! THAT'S UNRELATED.
And no, you really can't make the sweeping changes the Discord needs without deleting it. It won't work.
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