05-17-2018, 06:20 AM
(05-17-2018, 04:52 AM)Catonator Wrote: Technically irrelevant, but since you insist.Are people still bringing that up?
[your sprite of mario]
[10:03] Darkonius Mavakar: He's orange
[10:05] HellJumper: Which
[10:05] HellJumper: nose
[10:05] HellJumper: looks
[10:05] HellJumper: better
[11:03] Darkonius Mavakar: First fix the colors
[11:25] HellJumper: They're fine.
[11:27] Darkonius Mavakar: No they're not
[11:27] Darkonius Mavakar: They're too bright
[11:27] Darkonius Mavakar: The skin is orange
[11:28] Darkonius Mavakar: The hat is too red too
[11:34] HellJumper: Go f*** a donkey.

I said that simply to p*** people like you off, and it seems like it worked pretty well. But ehhh... that's just one instance. Is that the only one you can find out of all the instances? I'm disappointed in you, Catonator. I expected more from you.
(05-17-2018, 04:16 AM)Catonator Wrote: "because whatever was recommended to "improve my sprite" wouldn't improve it, but rather change it."Stuff that doesn't fundamentally change the sprite into something it is not, as I have stated plenty of times already. Yes, there is such thing as a bad art style, but it ultimately comes down to personal preference on whether an art style is good or bad. At times, it seems like people are recommending changes that suits their preference, rather than recommending changes that will fix noticable flaws in the sprite.
Alright, so what is your definition of improving? If you're adamant of making no changes to it, then it's not improving it. "it's my artstyle bro" isn't a counterpoint to criticism about basic anatomical or shading mistakes in your art.
There is a clear difference between improvement, and change. If you don't like the style I am going for, then you are free to dislike it. Just don't sit there and act like your opinions are objective.
(05-17-2018, 04:16 AM)Catonator Wrote: "And a lot of that "constructive" criticism isn't really constructive at all. Most of it is either trash talking, or they don't go into detail. Like instead of saying "this shade has too much saturation", it'd be "The colors don't look riiiiiiiiiight!"Oh boy... where do I begin?
SICK strawman. Most of the time it's really that you didn't get the exact answer you wanted and instead you got criticism on some other flaw in your sprites. Also isn't this kind of ironic? You complained about elitism in your initial post but generally you come across as an elitist about your own opinions.
"SICK strawman."
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This should help you out in the future.
"Most of the time it's really that you didn't get the exact answer you wanted and instead you got criticism on some other flaw in your sprites."
That right there, is what you call a Strawman.
Yeah, obviously it feels better to have your art praised rather than criticized, but constructive criticism helps you improve your art. And if I don't apply whatever changes you recommended, I have my reasoning, and it's not because I'm salty my art is getting criticized. Remember, constructive criticism is there for the artists benefit, so when you start complaining that someone isn't taking your criticism seriously, it just makes you look whiny and immature. Yeah, there have been times where I have explained why I feel that whatever criticism was false, but as I have stated, it's all based on personal opinion. If someone is pissed that I'm not changing my art to suit their preferences, then they can just make their own art.
Can we take this to DM's/PM's and stop flooding this chat with nonsense?
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