08-11-2019, 01:06 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2019, 06:39 PM by Pedigree. Edited 3 times in total.)
I think that the way bans are handled doesn't really fit how active this community is or the number of active members we have.
Banning one of the dozen or so active members you have for a year shouldn't ever be taken lightly. Even Mors himself says that Stir is often a positive member, with many of Mors' experiences with him previously being good ones. So why then are we forever drudging up his history before this current iteration of staff and why did we then use it to ban him for a year? He's shown that he's willing to be a positive member of the community on many occasions. He made a bad call making that signature, but does that really warrant getting rid of him for a quarter of a year to a full year?
Take UGM for example, he's shown no willingness to stop his flooding/spam behavior in Discord. He ignores requests from mods and immediately goes right back to doing the same s***. That's an unwillingness to learn or be a positive member of the community. He is definitely a repeat offender and shows no willingness to listen to the community's or the mods' wishes. I feel like under those circumstances you absolutely should be much more strict and escalate those bans to the next level.
There are situations that require a much more serious response, though, and I'd argue that these could even require the member to be permabanned depending on the severity and evidence:
-threats of violence on other members (note: the signature Stir had listed who he "killed" but the context is that he was taking credit for removing them from the forum in some way. He's not threatening to kill anyone, and you know that. I'm talking about legit threats of violence like the time Gato threatened to send friends to brutalize me or to send something harmful to Yoshin through mail)
-stalking and harassment, provided you have some proof to back it up
-posting blatant pornography and violating not only our rules but platform terms of service, same probably goes for sharing illegal content like full versions of software that you have to pay for
-spam bots
-phishing attempts and knowingly distributing malware, adware, spyware, viruses, etc.
But honestly, beyond that, I think bans should probably be a last resort in most situations outside of those scenarios. If you can ask a member to remove offending content, then do. If you can ask two members to either drop their heated argument or move it to DMs, then absolutely do. If you notice that they taking advantage of that kindness and continue to do the same s***, *then* ban them. Keep records of each time you make such requests of members to have a paper trail and support your theory that they are taking advantage.
Having a game-ified ban system where bans are the only resolution doesn't make sense for such a small community with so few active members.
Banning one of the dozen or so active members you have for a year shouldn't ever be taken lightly. Even Mors himself says that Stir is often a positive member, with many of Mors' experiences with him previously being good ones. So why then are we forever drudging up his history before this current iteration of staff and why did we then use it to ban him for a year? He's shown that he's willing to be a positive member of the community on many occasions. He made a bad call making that signature, but does that really warrant getting rid of him for a quarter of a year to a full year?
Take UGM for example, he's shown no willingness to stop his flooding/spam behavior in Discord. He ignores requests from mods and immediately goes right back to doing the same s***. That's an unwillingness to learn or be a positive member of the community. He is definitely a repeat offender and shows no willingness to listen to the community's or the mods' wishes. I feel like under those circumstances you absolutely should be much more strict and escalate those bans to the next level.
There are situations that require a much more serious response, though, and I'd argue that these could even require the member to be permabanned depending on the severity and evidence:
-threats of violence on other members (note: the signature Stir had listed who he "killed" but the context is that he was taking credit for removing them from the forum in some way. He's not threatening to kill anyone, and you know that. I'm talking about legit threats of violence like the time Gato threatened to send friends to brutalize me or to send something harmful to Yoshin through mail)
-stalking and harassment, provided you have some proof to back it up
-posting blatant pornography and violating not only our rules but platform terms of service, same probably goes for sharing illegal content like full versions of software that you have to pay for
-spam bots
-phishing attempts and knowingly distributing malware, adware, spyware, viruses, etc.
But honestly, beyond that, I think bans should probably be a last resort in most situations outside of those scenarios. If you can ask a member to remove offending content, then do. If you can ask two members to either drop their heated argument or move it to DMs, then absolutely do. If you notice that they taking advantage of that kindness and continue to do the same s***, *then* ban them. Keep records of each time you make such requests of members to have a paper trail and support your theory that they are taking advantage.
Having a game-ified ban system where bans are the only resolution doesn't make sense for such a small community with so few active members.